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November 7, 2009

Views from Jordan

Filed under: Helena's travels,Jordan — Carlton Cobb @ 8:17 pm

Our group has been in Jordan for about 25 hours at this point, having spent a fascinating day doing mainly touristic things in Syria, yesterday.

We had discussions with three very interesting people here:

Adnan Abu-Odeh, a former Minister of Culture, Jordanian ambassador to the UN, member of the Senate, and head of the Royal Diwan;

Mouin Rabbani, a brilliant analyst of Palestinian politics; and

Abdulilah al-Khateeb, who was Jordan’s former foreign minister.

Abu-Odeh and Khateeb both expressed their horror at the degree to which the Obama administration’s recent (mis-)steps on Palestinian-Israeli peacemaking have undercut all the pro-American “moderates” in the region.

Abu-Odeh said,

Now, we are in a period of disillusionment. Back in spring, I was speaking in Louisville, Kentucky, and I said we have to wait and see about  Obama, to see if he can face up to the Israeli lobby.  And he hasn’t.

He also warned that,

the continuation of settling means there will be no Palestinian state. If the American administration talks about a two-state solution and tolerates settlements, then it is lying.

He also gave a potent critique of the strategies adopted by Egypt and Jordan when they decided to make peace with Israel, believing that they could thereby help the Palestinians, “because Israel wouldn’t want to jeopardize its relations with us by continuing to oppress the Palestinians.  But it didn’t happen!”

Khatib argued strongly against the wisdom of any US or Israeli attack on Iran.  “If you look at the effects of the US attack on Iraq, you can see why we don’t want anything at all like that,” he said.  “For a Jordanian citizen, we find ourselves trapped between two nuclear powers. Iran is a major power in the region. We welcome seeing it play that role through inclusion and discussion rather than coercion.”

On the peace process, he said the big contest now is “between those who want a process and those who want real peacemaking.”

For his part, Rabbani said he had never had any illusions that Obama would be very different than Pres. Bush in his policy on the Palestine Question, so he hadn’t had to deal with much disillusionment.

He and the others all said a lot more really interesting things but I don’t have time to blog about them all here.

Another big day tomorrow!

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3 Comments »

  1. Good trip to all ! See u

    Comment by Yann — November 7, 2009 @ 9:17 pm | Reply

  2. For his part, Rabbani said he had never had any illusions that Obama would be very different than Pres. Bush in his policy on the Palestine Question, so he hadn’t had to deal with much disillusionment.

    To: Helena and her colleagues.

    I think it not the matter speaking to this or those people to understand were this case stand of Palestine and what the justices should be here.

    I done see this matter important or will fruit any thing from it as people in top positions had well a ware to please their western counterpart when they speaks about Palestine. This become the them before and specifically after Iraq war appeared very bold.

    Bush promised Palestinians had state before leaving White House???

    Israel have had full support of Gaza war backed by US from supplying legionary, Aid, and backing her in what it called independent UN???

    When Libyan government finished her case with Lockerby matter paid $3.5Bilion, some reports accused British PM G. Browne not been hard enough to push on compensations from Libya for supporting IRA gropes for the losses due to allegations Libyan government supported IRA separatists with weapon and aids!?

    So back to Arab case from Belfour declaration, with US full support of Israeli supplying here will total deadly weaponry and illegal weapons used all of the during may wares made a huge losses of human life’s aided Israelis to stolen and expanded her with new settlements funded by billions of US aides, the question rise here for any mindful person who value the human life, who believe in justices

    Are Palestinians now having the right to asks for their compensations from UK & US for their crimes?

    May this help to understand more about US foreign policy?
    US foreign policy is straight out of the mafia

    Comment by Salah — November 8, 2009 @ 12:03 am | Reply

  3. If the American administration talks about a two-state solution and tolerates settlements, then it is lying.

    وتابع باراك قائلاً :” إسرائيل قدمت للفلسطينيين أشياء كثيرة مثل بناء الشقق السكنية وشق الطرق وإزالة بعض الحواجز ويجب الحديث عن إمكانية مواصلة المفاوضات وخلال عامين سيتم الاتفاق على شكل وآلية وصورة الدولة الفلسطينية”.

    ورفض باراك الاعتراف بتقرير جولدستون ، قائلا :” نحن نرفض هذا التقرير ونرفض التحقيق في هذا الموضوع ، هو ليس تقريرا ربانيا ولن أسمح بقبول مناقشته أو التحقيق في هذا الموضوع”.

    http://www.alwatanvoice.com/arabic/content-143488.html

    Comment by Salah — November 8, 2009 @ 5:16 am | Reply


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